{"id":126,"date":"2008-02-29T17:37:02","date_gmt":"2008-02-29T17:37:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/tuscany-umbria-cooking-vacation-blog\/?p=126"},"modified":"2019-04-23T22:58:20","modified_gmt":"2019-04-23T22:58:20","slug":"italian-lost-translation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/blog\/culture\/italian-lost-translation\/","title":{"rendered":"Italian… So lost in translation"},"content":{"rendered":"Reading Time: <\/span> 3<\/span> minutes<\/span><\/span>

\u201cMy daughter speaks perfect English. After all, she spent a month in England with a native family\u201d. That was the quote that caused me to simply give up, and it speaks volumes about Italian culture and the denial so many of them live in.<\/p>\n

It happened this past October. I was in a local barber shop in Soriano nel Cimino. The barber was telling me of the frustrations he had been experiencing as he tried to communicate with the American tourists that t=started coming over the past few years. They would come into the shop, looking for a haircut, but he had difficulty communicating with them. After all, he doesn\u2019t speak a word of English, and it certainly helps to know what kind of cut your customer desires.<\/p>\n

I certainly understood, and promptly offered to help him. I explained that I would create a list of common (and not so common) terms that a barber would need to use, along with their Italian translations. He could simply give the sheet of paper to customers and solve most of his problems. I had done similar things for local restaurants, an ice cream stand, etc.<\/p>\n

Imagine my surprise when he declined the offer. He explained that he had been asking his daughter to do such a list for him, but she lives far away, is busy, and has had no time. He explained that his daughter had studied English in school, and was therefore fluent in English. I explained to him that while she may have excellent English skills, it was highly unlikely that she would have many barber shop terms in her vocabulary. After all, what are the chances that she learned \u2018buzz cut\u2019 or \u2018mullet\u2019 in her studies?
\nI continued to explain that he had an American sitting in the chair, and while his daughter may be fluent in English, it could never be at my level, since it is my mother tongue. Additionally, I was there, ready to help, and he had said that she had no time to help him.<\/p>\n

That is when he delivered the line. His daughter speaks perfect English because she spent a month in England. At that point, it becomes clear that there is no sense in continuing, but it illustrates a reality in Italian culture.<\/p>\n

As visitors travel Italy, they invariably notice that signs, menus, notices, etc. are translated so poorly that they are all but incomprehensible. This isn\u2019t limited to barber shops and little local businesses. The problem exists in government, major corporations; just about anywhere you see English translations. You see it in airports, major hotels, government websites\u2026 everywhere!<\/p>\n

It\u2019s the pride. Why have a non-Italian do a translation when we have a daughter, or a cousin, or a friend who claims to speak perfect English? It may spill over into the belief that the native-English speaking person can\u2019t possibly do as good a job because they may not understand the nuances of Italian. I really don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n

Here is another great example: Soriano nel Cimino\u2019s tourist board has a website, of course. Have a look at their home page<\/a> . If that isn\u2019t enough, keep digging on the site and try to read it. The kicker here is that for two years I have been offering to fix it for them\u2026 for free. I even went so far as to re-translate the site for them, and e-mail them a list of the mistakes with the changes they need to make. That was more than a year ago. I have explained to them in person why \u201cThe lucky hilly position\u201d makes no sense in English. I explained how \u201cthe ideal place where to spend\u201d is grammatically offensive. Did they change it? Why not? Nobody will tell, but I think it might hurt someone\u2019s pride, so it is better to live in denial.<\/p>\n

OK, I just felt like venting. I\u2019m done for now.<\/p>\n\n\n

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\u201cMy daughter speaks perfect English. After all, she spent a month in England with a native family\u201d. That was the quote that caused me to simply give up, and it speaks volumes about Italian culture and the denial so many of them live in. It happened this past October. I was in a local barber shop in Soriano nel Cimino. The barber was telling me of the frustrations he had been experiencing as he tried to communicate with the American tourists that t=started coming over the past few years. They would come into the shop, looking for a haircut, but […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1263,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_eb_attr":"","_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[5],"tags":[772,345],"class_list":["post-126","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-culture","tag-language","tag-translation"],"acf":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/02\/translation.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/126","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=126"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/126\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1263"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=126"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=126"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.culturediscovery.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=126"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}